FYI back in the day five years ago or so, one of us found Chris Anthony's website for Epic boats. I thought it was a high school web page project or something, it turns out the guy was serious. Chris is a member of this site, he introduced himself and asked us for input about what we all would like to see in a dedicated wakeboard boat. Some of the things we suggested are now part of that boat, so even if it isn't a Toyota, it has some heritage and some things that are part of our boats are part of his new boat. I applaud him for doing something different and doing something new from scratch. The boat is not for me but it is definitely a contender for the wake king types. Yes, he is having teething problems but I'd still consider that boat if I were looking for a new one.