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Hour meter on Tach vs. Message Center
« on: February 23, 2005, 20:31:05 pm »
A while back we talked about how our tach and digital message center hour meters don't even come close to matching. This is wierd since both are driven by the same computer (MMDC). In my case, the tach shows 250 and the Message Center says like 120. This impacts service intervals, GPH calcs and even resale value.

We speculated that maybe the tach increments when the key is turned to the ACCY position (ie. floating with radio on).

During my January annual service and a few hours of wakeboarding, I recorded both indications before and after, and they both incremented the same number of hours, and they only incremented when the engine was turning. This is as we'd expect and hope. Normal operation.


Which leaves the question, when/how did the two numbers diverge 130 hours? Also, which one's correct? My GUESS is that the tach hour meter may be calculated INSIDE the tach, ie. if the engine's turning (needle's non-zero) the meter counts. This would mean that at sometime around the 130-hour mark, my MMDC was replaced or reprogrammed and the digital version of the hour meter was flushed. Just a guess.


This question does seem important to me, because I don't want a single point failure to wipe my hour record. If both indicators are driven directly from the MMDC, then an MMDC will kill the record. I've thought many times it would be wise to install an old-school hour meter on the engine (hotwire it to run until the current hour is reached then install and forget). Although that would probably still be wise to do, I'd feel a lot better if the tach is in fact recording its own figure independent of the MMDC (sort of independent; maybe indirectly would be a better word).

Does that make sense, or has the coffeeee beeeecome a communication barrier?
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Re: Hour meter on Tach vs. Message Center
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2005, 20:47:46 pm »
Derek, I think you're assuming correct.  but where is the tach one located?  I've only seen the Accuski display, which on my boat reads 100 hours. It reset when my computer was replaced.  I know that it was replaced at 180 hours, so my total is 280 hours on the boat.  It would be nice to find the actual ticker and see if my boat is actually at 280 hours (as I've assumed), or if there are more hours (maybe previous owner replaced an MMDC also?).
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Re: Hour meter on Tach vs. Message Center
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2005, 21:29:34 pm »
Mine's got an LCD readout right in the Tach face.
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Re: Hour meter on Tach vs. Message Center
« Reply #3 on: February 24, 2005, 15:10:34 pm »
The hour meter in the tach was and is the most accurate. The hour meter in the digital display would be accurate also. The change of either part will bring hours to zero.

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Re: Hour meter on Tach vs. Message Center
« Reply #4 on: February 24, 2005, 18:22:46 pm »
Well that explains why that previous post on this topic never made sense to me. The only hour gauge my boat has is on the display unit... no readout on the tach.  Wonder if that is a model and/or year difference.
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Re: Hour meter on Tach vs. Message Center
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2005, 01:30:18 am »
Small detour here guys  ???
All this talk about replacing the "MMDC" (which I think is computer that makes my boat go) has me a bit worried. I have about 150 hrs and it has not been replaced. Should I start saving now for a replacment or where you guys just unlucky? 
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Re: Hour meter on Tach vs. Message Center
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2005, 07:54:31 am »
Most of us had different reasons for replacing our MMDC's.  Mine was replaced on warranty because of the oil alarm going of continuously (even working properly, the alarm goes off sometimes).  You'll know when you need a new one because your boat will drive you friggin' crazy.  Don't worry about it.

*update* I'm two weekends away from taking you wakeboarding.
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Re: Hour meter on Tach vs. Message Center
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2005, 12:33:11 pm »
Dealers also changed out MMDC's as a knee jerk reaction to any gauge problems. Many were replaced but were not bad to start with. Sometimes the problem is slight corrosion on one of the connectors, cleaning it up fixes the problems.
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Re: Hour meter on Tach vs. Message Center
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2005, 21:38:35 pm »
I like that sorta talk Cal. I will start looking for a dry suit today.
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