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01 Epic SX 22
« on: May 02, 2006, 00:30:58 am »
Just wondering everyones opinion about the 01 SX 22 that is for sale at Ski Masters.  I have read many comments on this board about it and many of you feel it is overpriced at 38K (I agree).  But I am wondering what you think a fair price is. 

Thanks and I hope I get a chance to join your group with a boat.

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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2006, 09:04:27 am »
Well, it is somewhat unique. So, in all fairness to Ski Masters, they have the last sorta slightly broken in, always a bridesmaid '01 SX. It is the last of its kind, in some ways. In floor ballast in 01. So far ahead of it's time. So, in a way, SM can set the price. I don't think it's necessarily overpriced. I think that you could probably work a deal with them about sprucing it up a bit with some of their spare parts, etc. Give them credit, it's the last shiny new penny, sorta. Not sayin' it's not worth it. Question is, is it worth it to you?
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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2006, 16:05:03 pm »
I'd be offering them 30 - 35K. I think they are asking way to much. Its a sweet boat as Cyclone was pointing out, but it is five years old. You wouldn't go into a Lexus Dealer and be expected to pay new price for a five year old GS400 or something.
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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2006, 18:26:12 pm »
Pete, that was very well put. You too, Bitzy.

Just to put things in perspective a little...When I bought my 2000 S22 in June 2003 from the original owner, it had somewhere under 150 hours, and was in most ways 'like new'. The carpet was a little matted and everything was actually three and a half years old. Basically as perfect a condition you could maintain with that number of hours. Nothing was broken, all accessories worked. I think new it sold for $40K, I paid $27K. Three years, $13K depreciation. If I turned and sold it today without adding the bimini, prop & CD changer I added, I'd probably get say $23K despite it being anything but "like new" anymore and up to 300 hours. There's another $4K depreciation since I've owned it. Altogether, it's depreciated $17K, or 43%.

Granted that Ski Masters boat is an SX, so the original sales price would've been higher, let's say $50K. Even though I have 300 hours and need some gelcoat buffing and the vinyl seams are getting ready to open in a couple spots and, and, and...the Ski Masters boat has aged too. Maybe not as much, but it's not "like new", it's five years old. Vinyl ages. The engine wears even by sitting, just by contaminants in the oil, in the cooling channels, drying of rubber seals the belts, etc. If you stuck with something close to that 40%, you can see that $30K is about right. I wouldn't offer anything more than that (unless I was pimp, had all the scrilla and it really did look "like new").
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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2006, 20:00:13 pm »
I really appreciate the input.  One other basic question.  What kind of added options/features/stuff do you guys recommend for these boats?  Anything that is really needed?  From reading I see perfect pass makes a great addition, anything else?
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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2006, 21:13:01 pm »
Perfect Pass and an ACME prop. If you ride in the winter, a shower and heater. Trampoline top (OEM) or bimini and board racks. If you wakeboard much, you'll add ballast - the trunk is a great place to hide 700 to 1000 pounds but you'll need to offset that with weight in the bow walkway.

Replace whatever battery it's got with an Optima blue-top.

I spent money on a box anchor and one of them slide anchor beach spikes and sometimes carry a spare prop w/puller. One really great thing to spend some bucks on would be a right-sized tool box full of tools that stay with the boat - I bring lots of stuff (never needed it), but am always scrounging around the garage for the 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, spark plug wrench, duct tape, etc. when packing for a trip.

Also, I run two spare tires on the trailer and would like to get at least one spare hub and all the tools for that. I'd like to retrofit the hubs to a TurboLube style where there's oil instead of grease.

Sure you weren't asking for all that kinda stuff, but hey...there's not a lot of unscheduled maintenance on these babies, but you still need to be ready for when something breaks in the middle of the pond. Besides, TOYOTA guys are snobs smart, and smart guys have tools to lend.
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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2006, 00:28:36 am »
Just a hunch, but I bet they'd take Bitzco's 30k.  They have had that boat for so friggin long it has it's own zipcode.  THere is no reason for them to keep it any longer, low ball them and take it off their hands.  Besides, if 38k was a fair price, it'd be sold three or four years ago...wait, they were asking 43 for it back then. 
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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2006, 00:41:02 am »
I offered $33K a couple of months ago and someone else offered $35K shortly before that. Last month they wanted $36K for the SX and $33K for the X22 when I stopped by to look at them. They're nice (the X is a bit roughed up from the ski school use) but the ....$  ?

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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2006, 02:44:41 am »
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news and dash everybody's dreams of owning the last new Epic SX from Ski Masters, but somebody has to do it.

It has been sold, and from what I could find out they took in a cool $36,995 for it.
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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #9 on: May 05, 2006, 23:50:14 pm »
It isn't such bad news as the person who bought it was me.  I had to change my name from possibleEpicNewbie since now I am an epic newbie.  Anyways, I didn't pay their asking price for it and I feel like I got a pretty good deal ( No steal but fair) and I really appreciate all the help.  I'll be around and I am sure I will have a few questions.  Thanks

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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2006, 16:13:27 pm »
They definitely had something special there, so paying a little more than for a truly "used" one isn't unreasonable. It was going for a lot more than that when it was in production.
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Re: 01 Epic SX 22
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2006, 19:47:06 pm »
I just saw that Epic SX over at Ski Master's today. Looked like they were getting it ready to go for you. That thing ls sweet! I had to stare at it for a minute just because it's the last one.