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S22 OR X22
« on: September 21, 2006, 22:40:33 pm »
I AM CURRENTLY IN THE MARKET FOR A WAAKEBOARDING BOAT AND I REALLY LOVE THE TOYOTAS.  I WAS JUST WONDERING WHICH BOAT THROWS A BETTER WAKE...THE X22 OR THE S22?

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Re: S22 OR X22
« Reply #1 on: September 22, 2006, 06:09:49 am »
I like the X22- But being form TN I haven't had to many other epics to compare too.  I still have a fixer uper for sell.  haha
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Re: S22 OR X22
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2006, 22:08:59 pm »
I love the wake behind my S22 when weighted moderately (1500lbs water with a couple adults).

Haven't had the chance to ride behind an X- or E-.

An SX with wet-floor would be fantastic - with a new board, I've begun to enjoy the wake with just 750 in the middle of the floor. The SX internal ballast would carry a comparable amount in previously wasted space.

Several guys here have driven and ridden behind both models (just make sure to respond wether your pulls were weighted or not).


There's a lot more to these boats than the wake.
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Re: S22 OR X22
« Reply #3 on: September 22, 2006, 22:22:18 pm »
I have no complaints with the wake behind my 99E22 with approx 1250lbs of ballast split between front (500) and rear (750). Any less than that amount of ballast and the wake gets quite a bit smaller.  I don't believe my riding will progress past the size and shape of the wake.

I was considering v-drive models, but the reason was because of the open layout and storage space not any significant improvement in the wake. I would like to dial in a better wakesurf wake on my E22 and believe a v-drive probably has the ability to put up a better surf wake.

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Re: S22 OR X22
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2006, 17:21:05 pm »
THANKS FOR THE INFO ANYONE.  SO BASICALLY WHATEVER TOYOTA BOAT I CAN GET FIND THE WAKE WILL BE NICE.  WHAT IS YOUR FIXER UPPER TENN16200????

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Re: S22 OR X22
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2006, 23:45:23 pm »
Well- I bought my epic X22 at the beginning of the summer and put alot of time and money into it.  Long story short-  the engine needs a little work- A compression test found that 7 out of 8 cylinders are within the norm but the number eight isn't.  I have put about $22 grand in the boat the past few months but do to some financial situations I have decided to let it go for far less then that.  The engine turns over and starts but I havn't run it. Could be something small but I haven't had a mechanic look at it yet to figure out how BIG or small the problem really is.  The boat is in Nashville, TN - anyone interested could come by and look at it or I can deliever it anywhere in the nation for the right price.  I can email pix to anyone interested...
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Re: S22 OR X22
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2006, 16:14:58 pm »
Mine is for sale with a working engine, perfect pass and full auto ballast (front and rear) I'm buying another Toyota. I'm in Atlanta.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2006, 23:28:58 pm »
Ouch Cyclone- thats hurts... haha---
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Re: S22 OR X22
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2006, 00:28:12 am »
Tennessee,  No harm intended, bud! We've all been on your side the whole time! I figure he might not want to go to the trouble, I'm sure you can get a fair price for yours with a bad engine, but you've gotta find someone who wants to go through all that.

First thing I would do is  a leakdown test on that weak cylinder to determine what part of the cylinder isn't sealing, i.e. rings/piston or head/valves. If it is head related you most likely be able to just pull the head and have it repaired, not have to pull the engine.

If it's more serious, you might consider buying a rebuilt long block or even a used LS400 engine.  I'm not sure how much if anything is really "different" with the car engine. I know things like the marine specific parts, i.e. throttle body, exhaust manifolds would probably bolt up. I wonder if the cams are different.

Either way, I would bet dollars to doughnuts that you could swap a car engine in, even a used one, and that it would work fine. Engine rotation can be reversed in the transmission, I hear, on that boat. I don't know if the car engines rotate the opposite, just mentioning.

I don't live too far from there, I'd run up to help you pull a head or even swap an engine in. If you had a place to do it, etc. Overhead chainfall, no cherry picker. A tree works;)

 

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Re: S22 OR X22
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2006, 01:45:02 am »
Thats cool,the boat might not run but you can still watch Flipper,Flipper faster than lighting,no one you see, is smarter than he under the sea everybody now sing along that ones stuck in your head wow that hurt

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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2006, 13:14:03 pm »
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE PICTURES FROM TENNESEE AND CYCLONE.  MY E-MAIL IS DWRECKA19@CS.COM

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Re: S22 OR X22
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2006, 16:30:32 pm »
PSullivan: huh?

Derek: Check out the other areas of this site, here's my boat in the classifieds. Make sure you take a look at all the maintenance info and procedures, other stuff we've all put up here about these boats.

http://www.epicmarine.com/forum4/index.php?topic=876.0
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Re: S22 OR X22
« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2006, 02:49:37 am »
Cyclone- haha- Yeah I knew you didn't mean anything by it- Just giving you a hard time.  Haha- I am going to own an epic one way or the other.  Just because I am trying to sell this boat this year.  When I graduate -  One of you guys are going to sell me your boat!  Heck, I might even buy this one back from who I sell it to.  I know it was taken care of, while I owned it- at least. 
Thanks for the great ideas of a leak test and the cherry picker TREE idea (never tought of that)...  TRUST me- Everyone that I talk to about boats hears what I have to say about these AWESOME RARE EPICs. 
Derek-  I am going to pull my boat out of storage (Carport with traps and a Cover) within the next couple of days and take pictures for another guy who is interested in the boat. He currently owns and epic but is looking to upgrade to an open bow.  So, I'll forward them on to you as well. 
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