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mustangdrew

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Buy an Epic they said!
« on: June 08, 2017, 03:11:28 AM »
Hello all!

my names drew and i purchased a 2001 toyota epic last week. I am a huge fan of toyota/lexus (own 2 GS400s and an IS300) and when I found that this boat runs a 1UZ i was sold. I purchased mine for well under 10k and thought the guy selling it really did just buy a brand new boat and that was the reason for sale.. this seems to not be the case.

When I went to go see it, it had its service records and was as clean as it was described on craigslist. The Previous owner had the fake lake set up before I arrived and I was able to start and rev on the boat on the trailer. I did notice the control panel on the left of the wheel was flashing but he said that was an epic thing - as i had seen on the internet. thought all was well and took her home with me.

flash foward to yesterday, I took the boat out to folsom lake here in NOR*CAL and went to fire it while still on the trailer in the water and no dice. boat cranks beautifully but will not fire. I do not believe that I am getting fuel what so ever. I hear nothing in the relays and the pumps are still. Also the panel that was flashing is completely dark at this point. I will plug my OBDII diag tomorrow when I get it to my shop. I have the following planned -
1) make sure obd diag tool can connect to pcm/ecu and pull any codes.
2) check fuel related fuses/relays
3) check for power to Fuel pump

if I draw a blank here I am wondering if that control panel to the left of the wheel has been fried or ? I also have no gauges what so ever so.... im leaning towards ele failure at this point.

Any input or suggestions are greatly welcome.
Thanks and happy boating season!

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Re: Buy an Epic they said!
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2017, 04:13:21 AM »
I havent heard of a no fire case on the boards, however, I'd recommend downloading the engine shop manual fromnthe docs section of the site. I believe it has a no fire debug section. It's worth noting that the OBD port in these engines isn't really OBD. You need the toyota scanner or tech tool to read codes from this engine.

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Re: Buy an Epic they said!
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2017, 07:17:08 AM »
First the accesorry panels get wet when you wash down boat causing the internal relays to short . They are no longer made and replaced with

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Re: Buy an Epic they said!
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2017, 16:58:10 PM »
Capt. Rick, your well known in the epic world! I appreciate your breakdown. Will need to send that panel after i get this fuel problem sorted. Thanks again, i will update!

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Re: Buy an Epic they said!
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2017, 00:26:36 AM »
Problem solved. It was a safety lanyard fault! Thanks!