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Tige cavitation
« on: July 09, 2005, 22:32:44 pm »
So, Dr. Festivus and I rode a friend's 04 Tige with the TAPS system. I really liked the wakeplate and the Perfect Pass, but other than that, I wasn't thrilled. The boat cavitated like crazy once it was going very fast. Bump, bump, bump. The wake was steeep, little transition. Probably great if you want to jump high rather than far. It would have been scary and rough for my wife and kids to get over because of the lack of transition. The other thing I didn't like was the angled back of the boat. It is hard to sit on the transom and get your bindings on. To each his own boat I guess, and I am thankful to our friend for the chance to try it out. I also tried the sky ski and couldn't get out of the water. Looks like fun though. Oh yeah, one more thing, that boat was loud! My ride on it reinforced my love of my own boat. It is currently having a new bimini installed. I'll drop in in pic once I get it back.
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Re: Tige cavitation
« Reply #1 on: July 10, 2005, 22:34:44 pm »
He might have the wrong prop on that boat. I notice a little cavitation when I'm loaded out and turn hard, but that is probably from the OJ prop flexing a bit under load, not unusual. Every time I ride in someone elses non-Epic, I like my boat more and more. Not that they aren't nice boats, but they aren't as much of a total package as is my boat. Of course, viewed through Epic "ownership goggles"!
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Re: Tige cavitation
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2005, 15:36:59 pm »
his tige wasn't in the slightest bit loaded down, and it was bobbing like a porpoise with just a little choppy water.  He is a good friend, top 10 greatest guys around.  He likes his boat, I like my boat, you like your boat.  Anyone ever been on a Malibu 25ft wakesetter?  Festivus likes.
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Re: Tige cavitation
« Reply #3 on: July 12, 2005, 00:47:49 am »
I'd like to go on record and say that BU was probably the wake boat of choice at Lake Havasu this weekend. Saw maybe a couple dozen, and then equal parts MC, CC and Tige, with a handful of Centurions and one Epic (yeah, us). The S22 still looks so clean compared to most. Will say that the BU carbon swept-forward towers are really growing on me, especially the one with the integral 6x9's.

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Re: Tige cavitation
« Reply #4 on: July 12, 2005, 02:02:50 am »
That tower has grown on me too, though it looks pretty impractical. It would be hard to reach your boards, and hard to get on and off the boat at a dock. Sure looks cool, though.
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Re: Tige cavitation
« Reply #5 on: July 12, 2005, 15:09:16 pm »
its the illusion x tower, and although maybe impractical, it sure looks sa-weeet. Plus with the 25 ft. Bu you can put like 28 people on board.  Our local Malibu dealer doesn't ever get them unless special ordered, so I think it'd be tricky to demo one, unless a local used one ever went on the block. 
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Re: Tige cavitation
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2005, 02:54:23 am »
Loaded with weight, the 22V is actually my favorite wake.  I would describe it exactly opposite of how Bitzy described it though -- the thing has a really long transiton and tall, rampy wake (actually, really similar feel to approaching our wakes, but it boots you more at the top...ours don't have that extra little kick).
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Re: Tige cavitation
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2005, 03:17:15 am »
Cal, whip out a pad of paper and your camera and draw some wakes for us....and have you been behind an SX/S22 yet? Will be interesting to see how the wake differs.
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Re: Tige cavitation
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2005, 05:48:19 am »
I've been? behind Terry's (highflyin's) SX.? The wakes between the SX and my X22 were a lot more similar than I expected.? Honestly, I'd have to ride behind it again to give a good review of the differences...I've only ridden behind Terry's rig once, and I believe we had about 1800-2000 lbs of ballast & people (which is about what I usually ride with anyway).? It seems like the transition, shape and size were all about the same comparably loaded -- the SX may be a touch bigger than my x22's wake, it was also a touch wider with the same length rope.? But the X22 seems to have a touch more pop than the SX (Terry, any comment? It caught him by surprise first couple passes behind my boat -- he was getting up there), and I think the X22 can handle more weight (I can get mine up around 2600-2800 lbs, if I don't mind waiting forever to get on plane).? But then again, the X22 has bags all over the floor to get there.

All in all though, they are very comparable.? And the size/shape is almost identical.

And about wake shapes in general -- everybody describes them differently and uses different words for different things.... and in the end, it really all comes down to personal preference.? For me, I like a fairly rampy wake, but still steep enough that you don't need to build it huge to get a good, solid kick.? My two favorites have been the Tige 22V and the 22' Supra Launch LSV/Mobius XLV.? ?In comparision to the Tige, the Supra/Mobius has a shorter transition and steeper wake... (though still on the rampy side).?

People often use the Malibu Wakesetter as the extreme of a rampy wake with a long transition, and the Nautiques as the extreme of a steep wake with a short transition.? I like the Malibu wake, but don't like the ramp to be too big or I get thrown.? I'm not a huge fan of a really steep wake like the Nautiques have because I feel like I need back-work after I hit the wake.? But I approach the wake a lot faster than most do, which makes the steep wakes feel very abrupt.  So to each his own!!
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Re: Tige cavitation
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2005, 17:24:38 pm »
The idiot is back. What happened to the name change? My impression of the Tige compared to my SX was that it had much more of a lip and that the final part of the wake prior to the lip was a ton steeper than the SX. Having said that though, the Tige was running unballasted with three guys on it and the wakeplate down. My SX is usually about 1000 to 1500 pounds of crew and or ballast. Maybe the difference was due to the wakeplate. I dunno. What I do know is that I prefer my SX wake. Maybe that is just because it is the wake I wake up with in the morning. I know it well. I don't know the Tige's wake.
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Re: Tige cavitation
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2005, 18:11:39 pm »
Cool, Cal. Surprising to me that the wakes are so similar considering the hulls are indeed different. I'm anxious to get behind the wheel of a d-drive Epic ;-)
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