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Author Topic: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue  (Read 3883 times)

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01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« on: February 18, 2007, 06:44:50 am »
This looks like quite a deal... I have an Epic 21 which I have owned for a year and enjoy dearly but keeping my eyes open for something with an open bow. Personally I think I would prefer a direct drive vs. V-drive but this looks tempting... thoughts?

http://www.wakeworld.com/MB/Discus/messages/8/390875.html?1170292921

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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2007, 13:27:45 pm »
That guy and boat disappeared. It was nice. I like the Surf interior better and I like the color better than my boat. Oh well, I am certainly happy with what I have in the driveway right now.
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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2007, 17:38:37 pm »
It's interesting that his picture of the wake is actually my pic from a Lake Powell trip.

No problem in sharing but might be a little misleading without a disclosure that the wake came from a similar boat not the actual one you're selling.
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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2007, 19:45:25 pm »

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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2007, 23:32:59 pm »
No pics but a number. I have a friend in Dallas who would go check it out, if anyone is interested.
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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2007, 02:06:41 am »
I may be wrong on this, but I thought I remember the person who is selling the SX (white/blue one at the top of this page) saying that the internal ballast wasn't working (not hooked up or something).  Once again, I may be thinking of a different SX I saw for sale on here.  For what its worth....
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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2007, 15:24:22 pm »
I do recall someone mentioning an SX with a leaking ballast tank. That would be pretty much a dealbreaker for me, but I bet it could be fixed. You could cut a couple of holes and put access plates in, get in and glue it up. Or something.
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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2007, 02:49:00 am »
I am now looking at another boat... an Epic 22 2001. They claim the hour meter is not working correctly as it shows .5 hours... so it is not completely dead but certainly not reporting accurately. The boat appears mint in pictures they have sent. He says his mechanic can estimate hours by the compression... here they are in no particular order, 175 - 175 - 180 - 175 - 180 - 183 - 178 - 183. He is thinking that there is about 300 hours on the boat... I am struggling with this way of estimating hours... does anyone know what it might take to get that hour meter to display correctly? So much counts at resale time as to what that little meter says... Does anyone know if there is a way that the engine itself records hours in its 'brains' somewhere? I thought the compression looked fine... but am open to comments as that is not my strong suit.

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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2007, 03:51:13 am »
from a technicians point of view those are excellent numbers for compression. You might ask if that was a wet test or a dry test. Dry test is just as it is described just pull spark plugs and start testing. A wet test is when you add a small amount of oil down the spark plug hole and then check compression. for a short time the oil will hold up in the rings and show higher compression, because the air is not leaking past the rings. the reasoning for a wet test is if a dry test shows low numbers, you then do a wet test. if the wet tests compression is better than you can assume the problem lies in the rings, for the reason mentioned earlier. if it is still the same as a dry test than the valve are bad. oil can leak past a bad valve. I would assume it's a wet test, those are really good numbers for a dry test. A Typical Lexus LS400 with say 50,000 miles will have an average dry compression of 150 psi. If you did a wet test on the same engine if everything was in good shape would be between 170 and 200. Keep in mind when some one else is doing a test you have no idea how much oil they are adding, the more oil the higher the compression. a typical wet test should be about a teaspoon per cylinder max.

I don't know if I agree with "you can calculate engine hours based on compression".  I think its a little too convenient the hour meter doesn't work. or work right sound even stranger. There is a guy on here from Tenn. that bought an x22 off ebay a while back with no working hour meter. once he got it working I think it was 200 or 300 hours. soon after he talked about major engine problems and it needs to be rebuilt ( no pun intended). My point being you can have a 100 hours and have a trashed engine or 1000 hours and it be in top shape, it all about what it was used for and how well it was taken care of.

if I remember correctly Tenn. replaced the MDC but, don't quote me on it.
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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2007, 06:28:17 am »
One other question I have is, this boat has a speed control device on it, like Perfect Pass, but there is not anything that identifies the brand. The boat is on a lot but ski boats are not their specialty... what other kind of speed control devices are typical on these boats and is there any way to identify for sure what it is? This boat is a long way from where I live so I can't really go see it for myself.

That hour meter still has me concerned... but thank you for giving me some indication of typical compression numbers for these engines.

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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2007, 08:13:57 am »
My '00 Epic 22 is for sale, it has high hours but runs perfectly and I do all scheduled maintenance. It runs as it did when I bought it new. Sell it to ya cheap;)

The boat you are looking at has Accuski. That system does not work well. My boat has Perfect Pass WB Pro, a front and rear ballast system, factory tower, LED lights, two amps, a 12" sub and Bose tower speakers. See my new post for pics of the boat.

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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2007, 16:34:28 pm »
I may be overly skeptical but the hour meter issue is bothersome, especially if the seller is using wet numbers, as described by Wakejunky, developed by HIS mechanic- the one that can tell the number of hours from the numbers. Where there is smoke-

I don't mean to Pimp for Pete but everything and anything anyone could ever want to know about his boat is posted here. In addition to getting a well cared for boat at a great price you get "Cyclone's" boat!!! I have discovered that these boats are more than fiberglass and an engine, they are a boating experience. With the limited production element in play, everyone seems to enjoy the history of their Epic.

Before Breakawaydaze corrects me, I need to change the first sentence to say, "I am overly skeptical but..."
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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2007, 23:02:34 pm »
Given the choice go with Petes boat thats a no brainer

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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2007, 23:28:39 pm »
I third the motion-buy Pete's boat. You Know the maintenace history. Its got all the goodies on it all ready and I mean ALL the goodies. It was all done right and not half assed. Not to mention it's a good looking boat.

Do the math- you can always find a cheap stripped down boat the somebody didn't take care of. By the time you fix it up and add all the stuff like Perfect Pass (A MUST!!!), ballast, stereo, lights, a new prop and what ever else floats your boat you will have spent a lot more than if you had bought a boat that's in top shape and has everything you need. Like the saying goes "You get what you pay for". OH GOD cyclone. I just noticed the price drop you threw in. That alone should seal the deal. I personally would not have dropped the price that much but I'm not Pete.

oh yeah Accuski SUCKS! ripped it out of my boat a month after I bought it.
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Re: 01 Epic SX For Sale - Blue
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2007, 02:16:46 am »
I just send 1500.00 on ballast